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Tracing vs. Referencing by Diikae Tracing vs. Referencing by Diikae


:// Tracing vs. Copying vs. Referencing


:// Warning: If you are tracing/copying someone else's artwork without permission, this is considered plagiarism and you can be sued. Just something to keep in mind.


:// Unless the stock creator explicitly speaks against it, tracing stock is not an issue whatsoever and can be a helpful tool to learn anatomy. When doing this, you need to be honest with yourself and the community about when your talent ends and the tracing begins, however.



I've seen some dispute about these things on dA and I would like to clear some things up as I see them. I hope most will agree, though I know some will not. I will keep comments open for now because I'd love suggestions or questions. This is here as a resource for the community. Comments will become closed if people start harassing me.

But in the end...

Referencing is always okay, of course, if it's not tracing or copying. There is a distinct difference.

I used, with permission, ~Druid-Ulises's Erin Image.

Also, some further reading courtesy of dA, on using other people's images, and copy/tracing policy:

FAQ #304: Do you remove copies and trace-over art?
FAQ #257: What sort of permission do I need to use someone else's work?
FAQ #157: Can I use things created by other people in my submissions?

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PinkPonyFarts Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
But then, if you don't have any issues with her why do that? D:
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xRedLily Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was just curious :P some one told me that and I didn't believe it so I tried it out! but that was a while ago so maybe she changed c:
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PinkPonyFarts Featured By Owner May 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Who told you? :o
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Astralseed Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Professional General Artist
looking back at the photo and tracing the photo are two very different things. While I have no beef with people tracing from stock (as I have also done so in a few of my pieces), to sit there and say that's not what you are doing is pretty.. hmm what's the word? Laughable!
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xRedLily Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wait what? Are you mocking me? D:
Tracing is drawing over the original picture.. and you two say that I'm doing that but xD I don't get it? where do you see me tracing over the reference in the video? the only thing I did was, drew a stick figure thing from the photo, and while I was sketching the horse I looked back at the reference picture sometimes, how is that wrong? > <

but wow I didn't intend to make a problem outoff this o - o geez
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Astralseed Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Professional General Artist
I watched your video again, and I think the video seems a bit deceiving. When I first watched it it looked as though you were dropping the opacity to see the photo in order to trace it. Upon closer inspection apparently that isn't the case.
I will retract my previous statement and apologize for it, since you are right that you were just looking back at the photo and not actually tracing.
I do however think the skeleton part is tracing though.. but again, it's not something I have a problem with people doing. Your video just really looked as though you were plain tracing.
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xRedLily Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No I always lower the opacity of the reference, just because you can see the lines you're drawing beter. but I know what you mean with the skelleton part though.. its an older video and I really had problems with anatomy(stil have),esspecially the belly and neck part for some reasom, I intend to make the skelleton more expansive > <" but dang! didn't intend to make this such a problem! -facepalm-
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Diikae Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Student Digital Artist
But you do the same thing as Boribaby? I don't see the difference, sorry. :/ It seemed like you were going over it pretty perfectly to me, and overlaying (out of curiosity) it's pretty close. But yes, you aren't tracing it like some people do, blatantly. However, tracing a little bit is tracing, period. There isn't a halfway point. -shrug- You just have to ask yourself if it would be so perfect without doing it, and be honest with yourself and the people who look at your art.
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xRedLily Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
and I think you're a bit over reacting with the "tracing pretty perfectly" part ^^; even the sketch isn't the same as the reference, and I know I would never trace a picture! x'D
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Diikae Featured By Owner May 7, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I don't really know what you expected me to say. |D and yeah, that's a good point, you don't have it on when you're drawing but it's still different then having your reference material off to the side. I guess it's the same idea as using a grid. In either case, you're going to do what you're going to do and as long as it's photographs and you feel good about it then more power to you. 8D
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